{"id":33512,"date":"2026-02-27T08:39:07","date_gmt":"2026-02-27T07:39:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/?p=33512"},"modified":"2026-03-02T08:45:35","modified_gmt":"2026-03-02T07:45:35","slug":"antonia-carre-pons-les-persones-que-ens-dediquem-a-lescriptura-acostumem-a-ser-maldestres-en-alguna-faceta","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/ca\/antonia-carre-pons-les-persones-que-ens-dediquem-a-lescriptura-acostumem-a-ser-maldestres-en-alguna-faceta\/","title":{"rendered":"Ant\u00f2nia Carr\u00e9-Pons: &#8220;Les persones que ens dediquem a l\u2019escriptura acostumem a ser maldestres en alguna faceta&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>L&#8217;escriptora, fil\u00f2loga i editora<strong>\u00a0Ant\u00f2nia Carr\u00e9-Pons<\/strong>. \/\u00a0 Foto: David Ruano<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a style=\"display: inline-block;\" href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-nc-nd\/4.0\/deed.ca\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"license noopener noreferrer\">Llic\u00e8ncia Creative Commons<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"height: 22px!important; margin-left: 3px; vertical-align: text-bottom;\" src=\"https:\/\/mirrors.creativecommons.org\/presskit\/icons\/cc.svg?ref=chooser-v1\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"height: 22px!important; margin-left: 3px; vertical-align: text-bottom;\" src=\"https:\/\/mirrors.creativecommons.org\/presskit\/icons\/by.svg?ref=chooser-v1\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"height: 22px!important; margin-left: 3px; vertical-align: text-bottom;\" src=\"https:\/\/mirrors.creativecommons.org\/presskit\/icons\/nc.svg?ref=chooser-v1\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"height: 22px!important; margin-left: 3px; vertical-align: text-bottom;\" src=\"https:\/\/mirrors.creativecommons.org\/presskit\/icons\/nd.svg?ref=chooser-v1\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-12365\" src=\"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/Andreu-cover-696x452-1-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"70\" height=\"70\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AndreuNavarra\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Andreu Navarra<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ant\u00f2nia Carr\u00e9-Pons<\/strong> \u00e9s escriptora, fil\u00f2loga i editora especialista en literatura medieval. Acaba de guanyar el Premi Nollegiu de Narrativa amb la seva novel\u00b7la <em>La gran familia <\/em>(Club Editor).<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Comencem per la teva nova novel\u00b7la. Hi cites J.V. Foix: \u201cNecr\u00f2leg i escriptor vol dir, si fa no fa, el mateix\u201d. Hi est\u00e0s d\u2019acord? Ho pots desenvolupar?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Si no hi estigu\u00e9s d\u2019acord, no hauria posat aquesta cita a l\u2019encap\u00e7alament de la segona part de la novel\u00b7la. La cita sencera, que prov\u00e9 de <em>Tocant a m\u00e0&#8230;<\/em>, diu aix\u00ed: \u00abNecr\u00f2leg i escriptor vol dir, si fa no fa, el mateix. Nom\u00e9s escriu qui no sap viure, en aquests temps de corredisses i llaurar tort. No heu anat mai en bicicleta?\u00bb. Aquesta cita de Foix, que incita a viure i no a escriure, la tinc clavada a l\u2019\u00e0nima des dels meus temps d\u2019estudiant de filologia catalana. Sempre he pensat que les persones que ens dediquem a l\u2019escriptura acostumem a ser maldestres en alguna faceta de la vida: o som poc sociables o esquerps o no sabem qu\u00e8 fer en una situaci\u00f3 concreta o som incapa\u00e7os de mantenir viva una parella o&#8230; \u00c9s evident que Foix devia pensar el mateix, per\u00f2 ho diu d\u2019una manera molt m\u00e9s po\u00e8tica que no pas jo.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201cMarkus, ja ho veus quins esp\u00e8cimens, els humanistes i els il\u00b7lustrats es van ben equivocar en preveure que la cultura i la ra\u00f3 millorarien el m\u00f3n\u201d. Ho penses?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Doncs s\u00ed. Moltes vegades quan escrivim fem que els nostres personatges diguin coses que nosaltres pensem. Els homes (i dic homes perqu\u00e8 les dones parlaven ben poc) de l\u2019humanisme i de la il\u00b7lustraci\u00f3 estaven conven\u00e7uts que l\u2019educaci\u00f3 milloraria el m\u00f3n perqu\u00e8 ens faria ser m\u00e9s bones persones. Aquesta \u00e9s una opini\u00f3 que traspua tamb\u00e9 a les novel\u00b7les del segle XIX, com <em>Els miserables<\/em> de Victor Hugo, per posar-ne nom\u00e9s un exemple. Avui dia sabem que \u00e9s una esperan\u00e7a vana. Amb el nazisme i els feixismes vam aprendre que la cultura no et fa necess\u00e0riament m\u00e9s bona persona: hi havia nazis que escoltaven amb admiraci\u00f3 Bach o Wagner.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Amb el nazisme i els feixismes vam aprendre que la cultura no et fa necess\u00e0riament m\u00e9s bona persona: hi havia nazis que escoltaven amb admiraci\u00f3 Bach o Wagner&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Vas publicar el teu primer llibre, <em>I ara qu\u00e8 far\u00e0s, Clara?<\/em>, fa vint-i-cinc anys. Com ha evolucionat la teva narrativa?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>La primera novel\u00b7la que vaig publicar era una novel\u00b7la juvenil. Hi he publicat novel\u00b7la hist\u00f2rica, prosa po\u00e8tica, contes, una novel\u00b7la dialogada (que vol dir sense veu narrativa), etc. Una vegada una periodista em va dir que era una escriptora camale\u00f2nica, i penso que t\u00e9 ra\u00f3: la meva literatura es caracteritza perqu\u00e8 cada llibre \u00e9s diferent als anteriors. Suposo que hi ha un estil que m\u2019identifica, per\u00f2 cada vegada els personatges, la trama, la veu narrativa s\u00f3n diferents. No \u00e9s una cosa volunt\u00e0ria. Em surt aix\u00ed, qu\u00e8 hi farem!<\/p>\n<p>Ara b\u00e9, si he de parlar de l\u2019evoluci\u00f3 de la meva literatura, diria que cada vegada tendeixo m\u00e9s a la senzillesa (que no vol dir simplicitat), a la manca d\u2019artifici, a l\u2019\u00fas d\u2019una llengua directa i viva.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Quanta autobiografia hi ha a <em>La gran familia<\/em>?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>He escrit una novel\u00b7la, no una autobiografia. Dit aix\u00f2, reconec que hi ha for\u00e7a elements autobiogr\u00e0fics a la novel\u00b7la: les protagonistes, la Rateta i la Si\u00f3, s\u00f3n dues germanes que s\u2019han criat en una carnisseria. Com la meva germana i jo. La gran abandona el negoci familiar i es fa medievalista. Goita, com jo! I hi ha una malaltia que afecta les dones de la fam\u00edlia: el c\u00e0ncer de mama. Aix\u00f2 tamb\u00e9 \u00e9s cert. A partir d\u2019aqu\u00ed, hi ha molta literatura.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Com pot ser que portis quaranta anys estudiant l\u2019<em>Espill<\/em>, de Jaume Roig? Com hi vas arribar per a quedar-t\u2019hi?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Doncs el vaig comen\u00e7ar a estudiar per casualitat. Quan tenia 22 anys i estava fent la tesina, un professor em va recomanar l\u2019<em>Espill<\/em>, perqu\u00e8 era un text poc estudiat. I m\u2019hi vaig llan\u00e7ar de cap. Com que \u00e9s molt dif\u00edcil, dona molt de si i m\u2019hi he pogut passar quaranta anys llegint-lo, estudiant-lo, pensant-hi, escrivint articles i fent-ne edicions, cr\u00edtiques i divulgatives. Tamb\u00e9 l\u2019he tradu\u00eft al catal\u00e0 modern per fer-lo assequible al p\u00fablic actual. N\u2019hi ha dues versions, una publicada per Quaderns Crema i una altra per Cal Carr\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Quins s\u00f3n els teus textos predilectes de la literatura catalana medieval?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A banda de l\u2019<em>Espill<\/em>, \u00f2bviament! Les grans novel\u00b7les, el <em>Tirant<\/em> i el <em>Curial<\/em>. Encara que tamb\u00e9 n\u2019hi ha d\u2019altres de menys conegudes que s\u00f3n molt bones i divertides:\u00a0 la <em>Hist\u00f2ria del pr\u00edncep Jacob<\/em> i la <em>Hist\u00f2ria de Paris i Viana<\/em>, totes dues publicades per Cal Carr\u00e9. Ausi\u00e0s March \u00e9s un poeta extraordinari, t\u00e9 una energia vital i una for\u00e7a po\u00e8tica que fan caure d\u2019esquena!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Entre les teves lectures preferides, esmentes Fante, Dostoievski i Dobl\u00e0tov\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Soc una lectora ecl\u00e8ctica. D\u2019aquests tres me n\u2019interessa sobretot la manera que tenen d\u2019escriure. Dostoievski t\u00e9 una prosa desbordant, que t\u2019arrossega a mons obscurs. Fante i Dovl\u00e0tov tenen la destresa de dir moltes coses amb poques paraules. I trobo que aix\u00f2 \u00e9s un gran m\u00e8rit!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tamb\u00e9 Sara Mesa, Eva Baltasar i Merc\u00e8 Rodoreda\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Totes tres parlen de la vida amb profunditat psicol\u00f2gica i amb una gran for\u00e7a po\u00e8tica, que de vegades \u00e9s lluent i de vegades torturada. M\u2019agraden totes tres perqu\u00e8 s\u00f3n molt diferents i perqu\u00e8 tenen moltes coses en com\u00fa.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Els que estem acostumats als llibres de Cal Carr\u00e9, coneixem la historia del segell editorial. Tanmateix, la pots resumir aqu\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Doncs l\u2019editorial va n\u00e9ixer al setembre del 2021 com un homenatge a la meva fam\u00edlia, sobretot a la meva germana, que va morir de c\u00e0ncer al desembre del 2020. Per aix\u00f2 tots els llibres s\u2019acaben amb una dedicat\u00f2ria: \u00abA la mem\u00f2ria de Joana Carr\u00e9 Pons\u00bb. La carnisseria familiar estava tancada des del 2016, a causa de les malalties, i vam decidir reconvertir la carnisseria en una editorial, conservant-ne el nom i el logo, que \u00e9s un porquet molt simp\u00e0tic. Vam passar dels llibrets de llom als llibres perqu\u00e8 tenim el convenciment que l\u2019aliment de l\u2019\u00e0nima \u00e9s tan important com el del cos.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Com v\u00e0reu arribar a la conclusi\u00f3 que calia publicar textos del matrimoni Woolf?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Perqu\u00e8 la Virginia Woolf \u00e9s una autora bon\u00edssima, que a mi m\u2019agrada molt. I el Leonard tamb\u00e9 \u00e9s bo, encara que no tant i ell n\u2019era molt conscient, que la bona de tots dos era ella. Aix\u00f2 l\u2019honora. El matrimoni va fundar una editorial artesana i familiar que es deia Hogarth Press. I com que Cal Carr\u00e9 tamb\u00e9 \u00e9s una editorial artesana i familiar (els meus nebots m\u2019ajuden amb les xarxes socials), el primer llibre que vam publicar van ser els <em>Dos relats<\/em> del matrimoni Woolf, amb traducci\u00f3 de Marta Pera Cucurell, que \u00e9s el llibre que va inaugurar la Hogarth Press. D\u2019aquesta manera els vam homenatjar.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;George Sand \u00e9s una autora m\u00e9s coneguda per la seva vida amorosa que per les seves novel\u00b7les. I en va escriure una setantena&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Parla\u2019ns de les novetats: George Sand, Willa Cather, Elizabeth Gaskell\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>George Sand \u00e9s una autora m\u00e9s coneguda per la seva vida amorosa que per les seves novel\u00b7les. I en va escriure una setantena. En catal\u00e0 hi ha el c\u00e8lebre <em>Un hivern a Mallorca<\/em> i un parell de coses m\u00e9s i prou. A Cal Carr\u00e9 la volem reivindicar i de moment hem publicat <em>El castell de Cimtort<\/em> i <em>La Cora<\/em>, totes dues novel\u00b7les tradu\u00efdes per Georgina Sol\u00e0 Sell\u00e9s, que \u00e9s una traductora molt jove (t\u00e9 26 anys) amb molt de futur.<\/p>\n<p>Willa Cather \u00e9s una autora nord-americana molt valorada al seu pa\u00eds, per\u00f2 que aqu\u00ed havia estat molt poc tradu\u00efda abans de Cal Carr\u00e9. I si nosaltres la fem \u00e9s gr\u00e0cies a N\u00faria Sales, que me\u2019n va parlar un dia i em va dir que li agradaria traduir-la. Confesso que jo no la coneixia. Em vaig posar a llegir-la com una boja i em va encantar, de manera que N\u00faria Sales ens va traduir <em>El pont d\u2019Alexandre<\/em>, <em>Pioners, oh pioners!<\/em> i <em>Lucy Gayheart<\/em>. Com que la N\u00faria es va morir amb noranta anys, ara ens la tradueix l\u2019Esther Tallada. Ens ha tradu\u00eft la deliciosa hist\u00f2ria de <em>L\u2019\u00e0via Harris <\/em>(\u00e9s un menut, un llibre petit i breu) i <em>La meva \u00c0ntonia<\/em>, que \u00e9s una de les obres m\u00e9s importants de la Willa Cather.\u00a0 Aquesta \u00e9s un llom dos colors, for\u00e7a gruixut. De moment, \u00e9s el llibre m\u00e9s llarg que hem publicat a Cal Carr\u00e9: t\u00e9 480 p\u00e0gines que es llegeixen amb un no res!<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Elizabeth Gaskell va n\u00e9ixer pocs anys despr\u00e9s de la mort de Jane Austen i \u00e9s contempor\u00e0nia de George Eliot i de les germanes Br\u00f6nte. Per\u00f2 \u00e9s la menys coneguda i llegida de totes&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Elizabeth Gaskell va n\u00e9ixer pocs anys despr\u00e9s de la mort de Jane Austen i \u00e9s contempor\u00e0nia de George Eliot i de les germanes Br\u00f6nte. Per\u00f2 \u00e9s la menys coneguda i llegida de totes. Per aix\u00f2 hi volem posar remei. Hem comen\u00e7at publicant <em>La casa de la bruguera<\/em>, en una traducci\u00f3 de Marta Pera Cucurell espl\u00e8ndida. La Gaskell et sap\u00a0 conduir fins a la casa de la bruguera, et fa passar a l\u2019interior i et presenta els habitants, de maner que tu, que llegeixes, de seguida prens partit per la bondat de la filla i contra la mesquinesa del germ\u00e0 gran i de la mare&#8230; M\u2019agrada llegir una novel\u00b7la que et faci formar part de la trama de seguida!<\/p>\n<p>Ja es veu que les dones formen una part important del cat\u00e0leg de Cal Carr\u00e9: per raons hist\u00f2riques, patriarcals, ja sabem que quan parlem d\u2019autors cl\u00e0ssics els homes ocupen molts m\u00e9s llocs que les dones. Per aix\u00f2 nosaltres les publiquem. I fem una altra cosa, per visibilitzar l\u2019art de les dones: a les cobertes dels nostres llibre hi ha imatges de quadres pintats per dones.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Quins s\u00f3n els teus projectes ara mateix?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Continuar escrivint, continuar publicant i, com diu Tx\u00e9khov al final de <em>Tres anys<\/em>, \u00a0anar vivint, veient.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Font:\u00a0<strong>educational EVIDENCE<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Drets:\u00a0<strong>Creative Commons<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ant\u00f2nia Carr\u00e9-Pons \u00e9s escriptora, fil\u00f2loga i editora especialista en literatura medieval. 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