{"id":27750,"date":"2025-05-12T09:16:15","date_gmt":"2025-05-12T07:16:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/?p=27750"},"modified":"2025-05-13T09:24:05","modified_gmt":"2025-05-13T07:24:05","slug":"miquel-roca-i-junyent-no-soc-un-gran-partidari-de-la-reforma-de-la-constitucio","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/ca\/miquel-roca-i-junyent-no-soc-un-gran-partidari-de-la-reforma-de-la-constitucio\/","title":{"rendered":"Miquel Roca i Junyent: &#8220;No soc un gran partidari de la reforma de la Constituci\u00f3&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p><strong>CARA A CARA AMB<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Miquel Roca i Junyent, pol\u00edtic i advocat<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h1>Miquel Roca i Junyent: &#8220;No soc un gran partidari de la reforma de la Constituci\u00f3&#8221;<\/h1>\n<figure id=\"attachment_27745\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-27745\" style=\"width: 999px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-27745\" src=\"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Miquel-Roca-cover.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"999\" height=\"554\" srcset=\"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Miquel-Roca-cover.jpg 999w, https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Miquel-Roca-cover-300x166.jpg 300w, https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Miquel-Roca-cover-768x426.jpg 768w, https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Miquel-Roca-cover-570x316.jpg 570w, https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Miquel-Roca-cover-270x150.jpg 270w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 999px) 100vw, 999px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-27745\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Miquel Roca i Junyent. Foto: Cortesia de l&#8217;autor<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><a style=\"display: inline-block;\" href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-nc-nd\/4.0\/deed.ca\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"license noopener noreferrer\">Llic\u00e8ncia Creative Commons<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"height: 22px!important; margin-left: 3px; vertical-align: text-bottom;\" src=\"https:\/\/mirrors.creativecommons.org\/presskit\/icons\/cc.svg?ref=chooser-v1\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"height: 22px!important; margin-left: 3px; vertical-align: text-bottom;\" src=\"https:\/\/mirrors.creativecommons.org\/presskit\/icons\/by.svg?ref=chooser-v1\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"height: 22px!important; margin-left: 3px; vertical-align: text-bottom;\" src=\"https:\/\/mirrors.creativecommons.org\/presskit\/icons\/nc.svg?ref=chooser-v1\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"height: 22px!important; margin-left: 3px; vertical-align: text-bottom;\" src=\"https:\/\/mirrors.creativecommons.org\/presskit\/icons\/nd.svg?ref=chooser-v1\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DAVIDRABADA\"><strong><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-14927\" src=\"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/David-Rabada-1-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"70\" height=\"70\" \/><\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DAVIDRABADA\"><strong>David Rabad\u00e0<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>No tots els dies un pot compartir una entrevista amb un dels pares de la Constituci\u00f3 espanyola i testimoni directa de la transici\u00f3 pol\u00edtica des de la dictadura franquista a la democr\u00e0cia vigent. En <strong>Miquel Roca i Junyent<\/strong> va n\u00e9ixer a l\u2019exili a Bordeus. Fou el dia 20 d\u2019abril de 1940 i poc es podia suposar en aquell moment que esdevindria un reconegut advocat i home de la pol\u00edtica catalana i espanyola.<\/p>\n<p>Per\u00f2 a m\u00e9s, i amb aquesta personalitat, ens uneixen dos fets ben allunyats en el temps i l\u2019espai. El primer ser acad\u00e8mics de l\u2019Acad\u00e8mia de Ci\u00e8ncies Veterin\u00e0ries de Catalunya i el segon, i fa molts anys, haver estat ell qui em va entregar el Premi Ciutat de Valls de Natura l\u2019any 1994. All\u00ed em va donar el meu primer consell en assumptes de protocol per tal de parlar en p\u00fablic. Tots aquests nexes es mereixen un \u2018Cara a Cara\u2019 amb aquest gran de la pol\u00edtica nacional.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Sempre he sentit a dir que parlen de vost\u00e8 com un dels pares de la Constituci\u00f3, \u00bfqu\u00e8 sent quan aix\u00ed li diuen?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>La Constituci\u00f3 t\u00e9 molts pares. Fonamentalment els s\u00f3n tots els ciutadans que van aprovar-la per una ampl\u00edssima majoria. Els que vam ser ponents de la Constituci\u00f3 vam ser uns mers \u201cescriptors\u201d del que la gent volia que la Constituci\u00f3 digu\u00e9s.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Com reformaria de la Constituci\u00f3 de 1978 per a adaptar-la al context de 2025?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>No soc un gran partidari de la reforma de la Constituci\u00f3. En tot cas, si la gent ho vol, la pr\u00f2pia Constituci\u00f3 preveu la possibilitat de la seva reforma. Per\u00f2 avui, el consens necessari per a garantir l\u2019\u00e8xit de la reforma no sembla f\u00e0cil d\u2019aconseguir. D\u2019altra banda, no veig problemes actuals que no puguin trobar un encaix als termes de la pr\u00f2pia Constituci\u00f3 i dels seus valors.<strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;No \u00e9s bo ignorar la Hist\u00f2ria, perqu\u00e8 \u00e9s la millor manera per repetir-ne els seus errors&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Per a molts la transici\u00f3 a la democr\u00e0cia queda lluny, per\u00f2 va esdevenir un moment molt delicat, \u00bfcom creu que s\u2019hauria d\u2019ensenyar aquell moment en els instituts de secund\u00e0ria? \u00bfcreu que la majoria de joves que surten de l\u2019ESO entenen correctament aquell context?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>No es tracta de com s\u2019ha d\u2019ensenyar, sin\u00f3 d\u2019explicar la Hist\u00f2ria m\u00e9s recent de l\u2019Estat i de Catalunya. No \u00e9s bo ignorar la Hist\u00f2ria, perqu\u00e8 \u00e9s la millor manera per repetir-ne els seus errors. Molt sovint es produeixen situacions que recorden molt clarament d\u2019altres que ja hem viscut i que, malgrat tot, la gent ignora. Podem dir que son necess\u00e0ries les matem\u00e0tiques, per\u00f2 tamb\u00e9 la Hist\u00f2ria.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Enyora vost\u00e8 el seu pas per la pol\u00edtica?<\/strong><strong> Hi tornaria en l\u2019actualitat?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>No enyoro el que vost\u00e8 em senyala, perqu\u00e8 sempre m\u2019he sentit i em sento comprom\u00e8s pol\u00edticament defensant els valors i els principis que han conformat el meu propi posicionament pol\u00edtic al llarg de la meva vida.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Si viatg\u00e9s en el temps, qu\u00e8 li agradaria millorar del seu passat professional? Canviaria alguna decisi\u00f3 pol\u00edtica? Canviaria de companys de partit?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>No m\u2019he plantejat mai com podia haver millorat el meu passat professional, per\u00f2 s\u00ed que m\u2019he plantejat simplement servir efica\u00e7ment i honestament a la meva professi\u00f3. Canviar decisions pol\u00edtiques? He tingut la sort de compartir sempre les meves decisions pol\u00edtiques i per tant, \u00e9s entre molts i a vegades tots, que ens podrem interrogar sobre aquesta possibilitat. Per a mi \u00e9s m\u00e9s important aprendre del passat per tal de no repetir-ne els errors. I finalment mai no m\u2019he plantejat canviar de companys de partit.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Descrigui en tres adjectius el moment pol\u00edtic nacional actual?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Desordenat, desconcertat, incert.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Quin model creu que seria l\u2019ideal per a l\u2019actual Estat espanyol?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>El que decideixin els ciutadans, per amples majories, des del consens, fent possible la diversitat i el pluralisme.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;L\u2019esfor\u00e7 \u00e9s imprescindible, mai n\u2019hi ha prou amb el talent&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>La paraula esfor\u00e7 en educaci\u00f3, qu\u00e8 li porta a pensar?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>L\u2019esfor\u00e7 \u00e9s imprescindible, mai n\u2019hi ha prou amb el talent. La cultura de l\u2019esfor\u00e7 i de l\u2019autoexig\u00e8ncia \u00e9s b\u00e0sica pel desenvolupament de la personalitat de qualsevol i del tarann\u00e0 col\u00b7lectiu del pa\u00eds.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Veu relaci\u00f3 entre els seus \u00e8xits professionals i la formaci\u00f3 educativa que va rebre? Quina seria aquesta?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>No estableixo cap mena de relaci\u00f3 amb \u00e8xits professionals, en tinc prou en valorar la formaci\u00f3 que els meus pares em van facilitar i de l\u2019escola que em va acollir. I, despr\u00e9s, d\u2019alguns grans professors de la meva Facultat de Dret, com en Font i Rius, l\u2019Angel Latorre, en Diez de Velasco, en P\u00e9rez Vitoria, Albadalejo, etc&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Creu que la vigent LOMLOE podr\u00e0 resoldre els baixos nivells de lectura i ci\u00e8ncies evidenciats en el nostre pa\u00eds per diferents marcadors internacionals? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ho desitjo vivament, per\u00f2 aquesta \u00e9s una pregunta que m\u00e9s experts que jo son els qui l\u2019han de respondre. Potser un dels problemes de les nostres mancances en el camp educatiu es deriven que, gent no experta, han resp\u00f2s a aquesta pregunta. Son els que en saben els qui han d\u2019ajudar a saber, per\u00f2 no sempre ha estat aix\u00ed.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;En educaci\u00f3 i en ciutadania, l\u2019autoritat \u00e9s aquell concepte que entre tots hem fabricat per assegurar la conviv\u00e8ncia&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>La paraula autoritat en educaci\u00f3, com l\u2019explicaria vost\u00e8?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>En educaci\u00f3 i en ciutadania, l\u2019autoritat \u00e9s aquell concepte que entre tots hem fabricat per assegurar la conviv\u00e8ncia. I quan aquesta autoritat derivada de la translaci\u00f3 que la societat fa a favor del que la protagonitza, sap afegir-hi el que significa l\u2019autoritat moral, \u00e9s quan aquest concepte esdev\u00e9 fonamental per la pr\u00f2pia estructuraci\u00f3 de la societat.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ens podria explicar els detalls del seu \u00faltim projecte professional?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>La professi\u00f3 per a mi sempre s\u2019ha servit amb els mateixos principis de quan comences a exercir-la.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sota una perspectiva ut\u00f2pica, quin seria el seu desig per a l&#8217;entorn personal per on viu?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Llibertat, benestar, respecte i toler\u00e0ncia per a tothom. No puc desitjar res pel meu entorn personal on visc que no desitgi per a tothom.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Font:\u00a0<strong>educational EVIDENCE<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Drets:\u00a0<strong>Creative Commons<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>No tots els dies un pot compartir una entrevista amb un dels pares de la Constituci\u00f3 espanyola i testimoni directa de la transici\u00f3 pol\u00edtica des de la dictadura franquista a la democr\u00e0cia vigent. En Miquel Roca i Junyent va n\u00e9ixer a l\u2019exili a Bordeus. Fou el dia 20 d\u2019abril de 1940 i poc es podia suposar en aquell moment que esdevindria un reconegut advocat i home de la pol\u00edtica catalana i espanyola.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":27745,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_FSMCFIC_featured_image_caption":"","_FSMCFIC_featured_image_nocaption":"1","_FSMCFIC_featured_image_hide":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[1643],"tags":[2989,1424,2988],"class_list":["post-27750","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-cara-a-cara-ca","tag-constitucio-de-1978","tag-cultura-de-lesforc","tag-miquel-roca-i-junyent-ca"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Miquel Roca i Junyent: &quot;No soc un gran partidari de la reforma de la Constituci\u00f3&quot; - Educational Evidence<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"No tots els dies un pot compartir una entrevista amb un dels pares de la Constituci\u00f3 espanyola i testimoni directa de la transici\u00f3 pol\u00edtica des de la dictadura franquista a la democr\u00e0cia vigent. 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