{"id":26027,"date":"2025-03-17T09:20:53","date_gmt":"2025-03-17T08:20:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/?p=26027"},"modified":"2025-03-26T17:25:30","modified_gmt":"2025-03-26T16:25:30","slug":"joan-martin-no-crec-que-ser-posseidor-duna-titulacio-sigui-assimilable-a-ser-competent","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/ca\/joan-martin-no-crec-que-ser-posseidor-duna-titulacio-sigui-assimilable-a-ser-competent\/","title":{"rendered":"Joan Mart\u00edn: &#8220;No crec que ser posse\u00efdor d\u2019una titulaci\u00f3 sigui assimilable a ser competent&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Entrevista amb Joan Mart\u00edn Vi\u00f1aras, enginyer en Electr\u00f2nica i Autom\u00e0tica<\/p>\n<h1>Joan Mart\u00edn: &#8220;No crec que ser posse\u00efdor d\u2019una titulaci\u00f3 sigui assimilable a ser competent&#8221;<\/h1>\n<figure id=\"attachment_26045\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-26045\" style=\"width: 900px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-26045\" src=\"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Joan-Martin.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"573\" srcset=\"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Joan-Martin.jpg 900w, https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Joan-Martin-300x191.jpg 300w, https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Joan-Martin-768x489.jpg 768w, https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Joan-Martin-518x330.jpg 518w, https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/Joan-Martin-270x172.jpg 270w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-26045\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Joan Mart\u00edn. \/ Foto: cortesia de l&#8217;autor<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><a style=\"display: inline-block;\" href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-nc-nd\/4.0\/deed.ca\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"license noopener noreferrer\">Llic\u00e8ncia Creative Commons<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"height: 22px!important; margin-left: 3px; vertical-align: text-bottom;\" src=\"https:\/\/mirrors.creativecommons.org\/presskit\/icons\/cc.svg?ref=chooser-v1\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"height: 22px!important; margin-left: 3px; vertical-align: text-bottom;\" src=\"https:\/\/mirrors.creativecommons.org\/presskit\/icons\/by.svg?ref=chooser-v1\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"height: 22px!important; margin-left: 3px; vertical-align: text-bottom;\" src=\"https:\/\/mirrors.creativecommons.org\/presskit\/icons\/nc.svg?ref=chooser-v1\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"height: 22px!important; margin-left: 3px; vertical-align: text-bottom;\" src=\"https:\/\/mirrors.creativecommons.org\/presskit\/icons\/nd.svg?ref=chooser-v1\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-14587 entered litespeed-loaded\" src=\"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Eva-Serra-150x150.jpg\" sizes=\"(max-width: 70px) 100vw, 70px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Eva-Serra-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Eva-Serra.jpg 200w\" alt=\"\" width=\"70\" height=\"70\" data-lazyloaded=\"1\" data-src=\"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Eva-Serra-150x150.jpg\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 70px) 100vw, 70px\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Eva-Serra-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/03\/Eva-Serra.jpg 200w\" data-ll-status=\"loaded\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Eva Serra<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Joan Mart\u00edn<\/strong> \u00e9s enginyer en electr\u00f2nica i autom\u00e0tica. Des del 1995 dirigeix \u200b\u200bla F\u00e0brica de Sistemes d&#8217;Embalatge SORSA S.A, ubicada a Santa Perp\u00e8tua de Mogoda (Barcelona). Anteriorment, va ser docent (1992-1995) i va treballar tamb\u00e9 com a professor d&#8217;inform\u00e0tica (1985-1989) per al Departament de Treball de la Generalitat de Catalunya. Ha estat vocal i secretari de l&#8217;Associaci\u00f3 d&#8217;Empresaris del Bergued\u00e0 i conseller de la delegaci\u00f3 del Bergued\u00e0 a la Cambra de comer\u00e7 de Barcelona. Conversem amb ell des de l&#8217;experi\u00e8ncia que acumula durant aquests anys en la formaci\u00f3 d&#8217;estudiants de Formaci\u00f3 Professional en pr\u00e0ctiques que acudeixen anualment a la f\u00e0brica.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Com \u00e9s un dia de treball a SORSA? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Som una empresa de transformats pl\u00e0stics, que treballa a torn continu, per tant 7\/24 h. El primer que es fa \u00e9s comprovar la producci\u00f3 dels torns de nit i analitzar les possibles incid\u00e8ncies que hi ha hagut, per altra banda, continuar amb la planificaci\u00f3 de productes a fabricar, ajustant les produccions perqu\u00e8 manteniment pugui fer els canvis de motlles optimitzant els temps de parades. A la vegada que planificar els manteniments preventius que s\u2019han de fer amb l\u00ednia aturada.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Des de quan contracten a estudiants de Formaci\u00f3 Professional? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Des de fa uns deu anys. Hem tingut alumnes de grau mitj\u00e0 electromec\u00e0nic.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Les seves pr\u00e0ctiques s\u00f3n remunerades? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>S\u00ed, paguem un preu d&#8217;hora perqu\u00e8 l\u2019alumne pugui fer front als despla\u00e7aments i perqu\u00e8 aquest estigui motivat en aprendre i fer la feina amb el m\u00e0xim de rigor possible i vegi el manteniment com una sortida professional que pot ser ben remunerada alhora que motivadora per la diversitat de feines a fer.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Els alumnes arriben amb unes idees molt generals, podr\u00edem dir pinzellades de temes diversos, per\u00f2 amb molt poc aprofundiment&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>T\u00e9 la percepci\u00f3 que el sistema educatiu proporciona joves ben qualificats?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Sento dir que no. Els alumnes arriben amb unes idees molt generals, podr\u00edem dir pinzellades de temes diversos, per\u00f2 amb molt poc aprofundiment.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Com diria que ha canviat la preparaci\u00f3 d\u2019aquests estudiants al llarg del temps?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Jo vaig ser professor de tecnologia en l\u2019antiga FP i b\u00e0sicament des de la FP1 ja es donaven coneixements d&#8217;aritm\u00e8tica, dibuix i pr\u00e0ctiques, alhora que hi havia un temari general de mat\u00e8ries comunes. En l\u2019FP2 s\u2019aprofundia amb aquests coneixements on es donava un bon nivell de coneixements t\u00e8cnics per a preparar l\u2019alumne a la seva integraci\u00f3 a l\u2019empresa, encara que com \u00e9s normal requeria un temps d\u2019adaptaci\u00f3 i de posada en pr\u00e0ctica d\u2019aquestes aptituds que servien per a refor\u00e7ar all\u00f2 apr\u00e9s a l\u2019escola.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Quines s\u00f3n les conseq\u00fc\u00e8ncies de l\u2019actual preparaci\u00f3?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pel que he pogut veure hi ha una gran diversitat entre l\u2019alumnat que ve dels graus mitjans. Hi ha conceptes b\u00e0sics d\u2019aritm\u00e8tica i matem\u00e0tica senzilla que molts no han assolit respecte als coneixements necessaris, el que fa que sovint els impedeixi refor\u00e7ar i evolucionar per entendre conceptes m\u00e9s avan\u00e7ats. Si no hi ha una bona base \u00e9s dif\u00edcil adquirir compet\u00e8ncies m\u00e9s avan\u00e7ades. Alhora que en dos anys es volen donar unes compet\u00e8ncies t\u00e8cniques dif\u00edcilment assumibles.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Com \u00e9s la relaci\u00f3 entre el tutor de l\u2019empresa i el tutor del centre?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Sempre hem col\u00b7laborat molt estretament amb el tutor, intentant que l\u2019alumne pugui veure la diversitat de possibilitats que hi ha per aplicar els coneixements te\u00f2rics i desperti la curiositat i l&#8217;inter\u00e8s per aprendre. Soc del parer que s\u2019apr\u00e8n m\u00e9s estudiant que treballant, per\u00f2 \u00e9s necessari treballar per a refor\u00e7ar i aplicar els coneixements adquirits.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;B\u00e0sicament, crec que almenys amb grau mitj\u00e0, no tenen prou temps per adquirir les aptituds per a ser \u00fatils a l\u2019empresa&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Qu\u00e8 demanaria a la preparaci\u00f3 acad\u00e8mica per a una ind\u00fastria com la seva?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>B\u00e0sicament, crec que almenys amb grau mitj\u00e0, no tenen prou temps per adquirir les aptituds per a ser \u00fatils a l\u2019empresa. Ni des del punt de vista te\u00f2ric ni pr\u00e0ctic. Avui dia hi ha molta m\u00e0quina especialitzada que requereix un grau important de comprensi\u00f3 dels manuals i dels esquemes, aix\u00f2 nom\u00e9s s\u2019aconsegueix amb uns bons coneixements, tant en temps com amb solidesa.<\/p>\n<p><strong>El sector metal\u00b7l\u00fargic en concret, \u00e9s hist\u00f2ricament un dels que m\u00e9s demandes laborals t\u00e9 sense cobrir i alhora un dels que ofereix m\u00e9s possibilitats de carrera professional. Pensa que est\u00e0 ben orientat en l&#8217;\u00e0mbit de formaci\u00f3?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>En la meva empresa requerim professionals electromec\u00e0nics, amb capacitats per a resoldre avaries i fer ajustaments. Tenim professionals m\u00e9s especialitzats en temes el\u00e8ctrics i automatismes i d\u2019altres m\u00e9s enfocats a la part mec\u00e0nica.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Arriben els joves amb una bona preparaci\u00f3 per a les noves tecnologies adequades a la ind\u00fastria? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>No, i potser parlo de l\u2019ensinistrament amb automatismes, sensors, controladors que solament els han vist a escala te\u00f2rica i que els hi sona que existeixen, per\u00f2 res m\u00e9s. Amb unes pr\u00e0ctiques molt redu\u00efdes. Cal afegir que a causa de l&#8217;alta diversitat d\u2019equips que existeixen es fa necess\u00e0ria una formaci\u00f3 cont\u00ednua i espec\u00edfica de les eines a utilitzar. Per\u00f2 cal que hi hagi un p\u00f2sit s\u00f2lid al darrere que et permeti evolucionar.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;El denominador com\u00fa \u00e9s que moltes de les compet\u00e8ncies que en teoria es donarien per adquirides tenen molt poca solidesa&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Quines diria que s\u00f3n les defici\u00e8ncies m\u00e9s generalitzades dels joves que arriben a fer les pr\u00e0ctiques a SORSA?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Avui en dia no crec que ser posse\u00efdor d\u2019una titulaci\u00f3 sigui assimilable a ser competent amb aquesta disciplina, hi ha molta diversitat de perfils, per\u00f2 el denominador com\u00fa \u00e9s que moltes de les compet\u00e8ncies que en teoria es donarien per adquirides tenen molt poca solidesa.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Quina diria que \u00e9s la percepci\u00f3 dels joves un cop han acabat el per\u00edode de pr\u00e0ctiques a la seva f\u00e0brica? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Que descobreixen tot un m\u00f3n on hi ha molta diversitat d\u2019equips i tenim exemples d\u2019alumnes que han vist necessari ampliar els seus estudis per a ser competents en la ind\u00fastria actual.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Font:\u00a0<strong>educational EVIDENCE<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Drets:\u00a0<strong>Creative Commons<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Joan Mart\u00edn \u00e9s enginyer en electr\u00f2nica i autom\u00e0tica. Des del 1995 dirigeix \u200b\u200bla F\u00e0brica de Sistemes d&#8217;Embalatge SORSA S.A, ubicada a Santa Perp\u00e8tua de Mogoda (Barcelona). Anteriorment, va ser docent (1992-1995) i va treballar tamb\u00e9 com a professor d&#8217;inform\u00e0tica (1985-1989) per al Departament de Treball de la Generalitat de Catalunya. Ha estat vocal i secretari de l&#8217;Associaci\u00f3 d&#8217;Empresaris del Bergued\u00e0 i conseller de la delegaci\u00f3 del Bergued\u00e0 a la Cambra de comer\u00e7 de Barcelona. Conversem amb ell des de l&#8217;experi\u00e8ncia que acumula durant aquests anys en la formaci\u00f3 d&#8217;estudiants de FP en pr\u00e0ctiques que acudeixen anualment a la f\u00e0brica.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":26045,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_FSMCFIC_featured_image_caption":"","_FSMCFIC_featured_image_nocaption":"1","_FSMCFIC_featured_image_hide":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[226,230],"tags":[2737,2736,2733,2024,2735],"class_list":["post-26027","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-economia-ca","category-productivitat","tag-demandes-laborals","tag-industria","tag-joan-martin-vinaras","tag-practiques-fp","tag-sorsa"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Joan Mart\u00edn: &quot;No crec que ser posse\u00efdor d\u2019una titulaci\u00f3 sigui assimilable a ser competent&quot; - Educational Evidence<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Joan Mart\u00edn \u00e9s enginyer en electr\u00f2nica i autom\u00e0tica. 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