{"id":20881,"date":"2024-10-18T09:42:31","date_gmt":"2024-10-18T07:42:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/?p=20881"},"modified":"2024-10-21T13:37:48","modified_gmt":"2024-10-21T11:37:48","slug":"antoni-hernandez-un-bon-docent-esta-per-sobre-de-les-lleis-educatives","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/ca\/antoni-hernandez-un-bon-docent-esta-per-sobre-de-les-lleis-educatives\/","title":{"rendered":"Antoni Hern\u00e1ndez: &#8220;Un bon docent est\u00e0 per sobre de les lleis educatives&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\"><strong>CARA A CARA AMB<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Antoni Hern\u00e1ndez Fern\u00e1ndez, f\u00edsic, ling\u00fcista i doctor en ci\u00e8ncia cognitiva i llenguatge<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h1>Antoni Hern\u00e1ndez: &#8220;Un bon docent est\u00e0 per sobre de les lleis educatives&#8221;<\/h1>\n<figure id=\"attachment_20858\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-20858\" style=\"width: 900px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-20858\" src=\"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/ANTONIO-HERNANDEZ-_900.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"675\" srcset=\"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/ANTONIO-HERNANDEZ-_900.jpg 900w, https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/ANTONIO-HERNANDEZ-_900-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/ANTONIO-HERNANDEZ-_900-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/ANTONIO-HERNANDEZ-_900-440x330.jpg 440w, https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/ANTONIO-HERNANDEZ-_900-240x180.jpg 240w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-20858\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Antoni Hern\u00e1ndez. \/ Foto: cortesia de l&#8217;autor.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><a style=\"display: inline-block;\" href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-nc-nd\/4.0\/deed.ca\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"license noopener noreferrer\">Llic\u00e8ncia Creative Commons<img decoding=\"async\" style=\"height: 22px!important; margin-left: 3px; vertical-align: text-bottom;\" src=\"https:\/\/mirrors.creativecommons.org\/presskit\/icons\/cc.svg?ref=chooser-v1\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"height: 22px!important; margin-left: 3px; vertical-align: text-bottom;\" src=\"https:\/\/mirrors.creativecommons.org\/presskit\/icons\/by.svg?ref=chooser-v1\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"height: 22px!important; margin-left: 3px; vertical-align: text-bottom;\" src=\"https:\/\/mirrors.creativecommons.org\/presskit\/icons\/nc.svg?ref=chooser-v1\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"height: 22px!important; margin-left: 3px; vertical-align: text-bottom;\" src=\"https:\/\/mirrors.creativecommons.org\/presskit\/icons\/nd.svg?ref=chooser-v1\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DAVIDRABADA\"><strong><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-14927\" src=\"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/David-Rabada-1-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"70\" height=\"70\" \/><\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DAVIDRABADA\"><strong>David Rabad\u00e0<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Antoni Hern\u00e1ndez<\/strong> \u00e9s f\u00edsic, ling\u00fcista i doctor en ci\u00e8ncia cognitiva per la Universitat de Barcelona. Ha estat 27 anys docent de secund\u00e0ria i actualment \u00e9s professor agregat a la Universitat Polit\u00e8cnica de Catalunya sent sotsdirector de l\u2019Institut de Ci\u00e8ncies de l\u2019Educaci\u00f3 que forma al professorat de tecnologia i FP. Per\u00f2 la doc\u00e8ncia no ha \u00e9s l\u2019\u00fanic cam\u00ed per on transita aquest inquiet home de ci\u00e8ncies, de fet, i a la UPC, investiga l\u2019aplicaci\u00f3 de models matem\u00e0tics i f\u00edsics a l\u2019estudi de la comunicaci\u00f3 i l\u2019aprenentatge. Dit d\u2019una altra manera, en Toni t\u00e9 interessos entre les Humanitats, la Ci\u00e8ncia i la Tecnologia, amb un \u00e8mfasi especial en l\u2019educaci\u00f3 i la divulgaci\u00f3.<\/p>\n<p>Senyal de tot l\u2019anterior s\u00f3n els m\u00e9s de quaranta llibres publicats, en qualitat de coautor, com la biografia de &#8220;Enrico Fermi&#8221; (RBA, 2013), o altres d\u2019on n\u2019ha estat coautor com &#8220;Ling\u00fc\u00edstica Cuantitativa&#8221; (Ediciones El Pa\u00eds, 2019), o \u201cLa educaci\u00f3n cancelada\u201d (Sloper, 2022). Tamb\u00e9 cal afegir que \u00e9s membre de la junta de la Societat Catalana de Tecnologia (SCT), on edita la <a href=\"https:\/\/revistes.iec.cat\/index.php\/RTEC\/index\">Revista de Tecnologia<\/a>, i forma part del comit\u00e8 d\u2019\u00e8tica de la UPC des de la seva fundaci\u00f3.\u00a0 A la SCT va traduir al catal\u00e0 i va editar \u201cFilosofia de la Tecnologia\u201d (UPC-IEC, 2019), obra commemorativa del centenari del f\u00edsic i fil\u00f2sof Mario Bunge, i m\u00e9s recentment ha editat \u00abIntel\u00b7lig\u00e8ncia artificial i tecno\u00e8tica\u00bb (Di\u00e0legs UPC Arts, 2022), i \u00abCreativitat computacional\u00bb (Di\u00e0legs UPC Arts, 2023). Pioner en la introducci\u00f3 d\u2019eines d\u2019Intel\u00b7lig\u00e8ncia Artificial generativa a classe, col\u00b7labora sobre el tema des de 2022 a les escoles d\u2019estiu <a href=\"https:\/\/aihub.csic.es\/\">AIHUB-CSIC<\/a> i ha comissariat l\u2019exposici\u00f3 de la Fundaci\u00f3 La Caixa \u00abLa Nube AI\u00bb (2022-23).<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Qu\u00e8 et va emp\u00e8nyer a assolir la teva carrera professional vigent?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>La inquietud per aprendre que em van transmetre els meus pares, i el recolzament imprescindible dels professors que vaig tenir en el meu recorregut.<strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>De quines persones vas entendre millor la realitat social en la qual vivim? Per qu\u00e8?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ui, de moltes. Per\u00f2 sobre tot a casa i al carrer. La meva mare era una dona molt intel\u00b7ligent i creativa que no va poder estudiar tot el que va voler pel masclisme de la seva \u00e8poca.\u00a0 S\u00ed es va formar com a cosidora i patronista, un ofici que compaginava amb les tasques de la llar. S\u00f3c el gran de quatre germans, i quan jo era petit la meva mare tamb\u00e9 era al c\u00e0rrec de dos besavis. Va ser una lluitadora que va tenir clar que els estudis eren fonamentals pel nostre futur.<\/p>\n<p><strong>I el teu pare?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>El meu pare treballava molt, com a camioner i repartidor de cervesa, i de ben petits, tant el meu germ\u00e0 com jo ja an\u00e0vem a ajudar, sobre tot a l\u2019estiu, a repartir pels bars, de manera que el carrer i el contacte directe amb la gent et feia entendre on vivies i el que hi havia. El meu pare, nascut a Baza (Granada) deia \u00abpesan m\u00e1s las cajas que los libros\u00bb.<strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Frase amb gran contingut i missatge de fons. Potser tingui relaci\u00f3 amb els detalls dels \u00faltims projectes professionals?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>S\u00ed, ara mateix tinc diversos projectes, per\u00f2 un d\u2019ells \u00e9s un de recerca\u00a0 que acabem de presentar a una convocat\u00f2ria europea sobre la intel\u00b7lig\u00e8ncia artificial (IA).<\/p>\n<p><strong>I qu\u00e8 intenta oferir aquest nou projecte sobre la IA?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Doncs intenta donar una mica de llum al perqu\u00e8 respon com ho fa aquesta tecnologia en casos reals d\u2019educaci\u00f3.<\/p>\n<p><strong>D\u2019on obtenen les dades per a treballar educaci\u00f3 i IA conjuntament?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>La Universitat Polit\u00e8cnica de Catalunya, i el seu Institut de Ci\u00e8ncies de l\u2019Educaci\u00f3 i IthinkUPC, aportem els casos d\u2019estudi d\u2019aplicaci\u00f3 de la IA a l\u2019educaci\u00f3.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Cal prud\u00e8ncia i fer molta recerca sobre aquesta tecnologia, aix\u00ed com tenir en consideraci\u00f3 aspectes \u00e8tics, abans d\u2019aplicar-la alegrement&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Molts en parlen amb por de la IA. Qu\u00e8 en penses?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Cal prud\u00e8ncia i fer molta recerca sobre aquesta tecnologia, aix\u00ed com tenir en consideraci\u00f3 aspectes \u00e8tics, abans d\u2019aplicar-la alegrement. En paral\u00b7lel, estem tamb\u00e9 planificant un programa formatiu ampli sobre IA a la doc\u00e8ncia universit\u00e0ria.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Quines relacions positives creus que van existir entre el teu creixement professional i personal amb la formaci\u00f3 rebuda a l\u2019escola?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ei, de nou aix\u00f2 \u00e9s molt complicat. Totes les etapes s\u00f3n crucials. Per\u00f2 destacaria el goig per la lectura i la ci\u00e8ncia. La meva bes\u00e0via Maria va aprendre a llegir de molt gran, i aplicant all\u00f2 de \u00abque no et passi com a mi\u00bb amb un alfabet il\u00b7lustrat em va ensenyar les lletres i els nombres quan era molt petit.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Li deus molt aleshores<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ben cert. Mentre tothom estava molt ocupat, ella em va dedicar aquell temps preuat a aix\u00f2 que diem estimulaci\u00f3 primerenca. Despr\u00e9s amb la meva mare vaig tenir la sort de comen\u00e7ar a llegir molt aviat, i el meu pare sempre estava fent-nos preguntes, de temes que anaven del futbol a paraules del bastet\u00e0, el que et feia exercitar la mem\u00f2ria. Ells no es tallaven i, fent esfor\u00e7os, ens van comprar v\u00e0ries enciclop\u00e8dies, entre elles una de ci\u00e8ncies de la que em vaig enamorar. No entenia res, per\u00f2 volia comprendre&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sols amb aquest impuls familiar en vas tenir prou per a assolir la tasca vigent?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ni molt menys. Posteriorment va haver-hi molts professors importants i vaig tenir la sort d\u2019estudiar a un molt bon institut p\u00fablic de Barcelona, L\u2019Alzina, on destacaria la influ\u00e8ncia positiva del professor de f\u00edsica, Carlos Castell, el de matem\u00e0tiques, Jes\u00fas Garc\u00eda (\u00abBacterio\u00bb), l\u2019Ignacio Yebra a llengua, o en Robert Canal a biologia. Ells em van ajudar especialment.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_20875\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-20875\" style=\"width: 900px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-20875\" src=\"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/2020-amb-Toni-Hernandez.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"675\" srcset=\"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/2020-amb-Toni-Hernandez.jpg 900w, https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/2020-amb-Toni-Hernandez-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/2020-amb-Toni-Hernandez-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/2020-amb-Toni-Hernandez-440x330.jpg 440w, https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/2020-amb-Toni-Hernandez-240x180.jpg 240w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-20875\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A l&#8217;esquerra, Toni Hern\u00e1ndez. Foto: selfie David Rabad\u00e0<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>Al respecte de l\u2019actual sistema educatiu, t\u2019hauria fet millorar o empitjorar la teva projecci\u00f3 professional?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Tu quoque, filii mei<\/em>? M\u2019estranya que tu em preguntis aix\u00f2 David (riure). \u00c9s ci\u00e8ncia ficci\u00f3 el que em preguntes, per\u00f2 confio i crec en el gran poder dels docents: amb els mateixos docents que vaig tenir a l\u2019antiga EGB, BUP i COU, ara m\u2019hauria format igualment b\u00e9. Un bon docent est\u00e0 per sobre de les lleis educatives, afortunadament. Haurien sabut com fer-ho, com ajudar-me, malgrat tot.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Creus llavors que la legislaci\u00f3 educativa influeix, doncs? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Per suposat! Segurament ara aquells mateixos docents patirien una major burocr\u00e0cia, el que els deixaria menys temps per a preparar les classes. Resulta \u00f2bvia la desorientaci\u00f3 dels legisladors establint curr\u00edculums que han marginat el coneixement i els <em>tempos <\/em>de l\u2019aprenentatge. El mateix dir dels plans d\u2019estudi bojos que, en alguns centres, per exemple, fan incompatible estudiar a batxillerat f\u00edsica i biologia. Sorprenentment, es trobarien amb problemes que haurien d\u2019estar superats, com les <em>ratios<\/em> excessives. El meu fill a segon de batxillerat, s\u2019ha trobat a les mat\u00e8ries comunes amb classes on s\u00f3n m\u00e9s de 35 alumnes en el seu centre p\u00fablic.<strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Sobre tot cal baixar les r\u00e0tios on \u00e9s evident l&#8217;exc\u00e9s d\u2019estudiants, i eliminar moltes hores perdudes en mat\u00e8ries inventades&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Veient el teu cam\u00ed professional, com creus que s\u2019hauria de millorar l\u2019actual sistema d\u2019ensenyament?<\/strong><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Sobre tot cal baixar les r\u00e0tios on \u00e9s evident l&#8217;exc\u00e9s d\u2019estudiants, i eliminar moltes hores perdudes en mat\u00e8ries inventades, seguint la moda, i establir una formaci\u00f3 estable i s\u00f2lida en humanitats, ci\u00e8ncies i tecnologia, ja des de la prim\u00e0ria.<strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Podries concretar algunes propostes?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Com no. Primer reduir la dispersi\u00f3 de mat\u00e8ries amb una agrupaci\u00f3 coherent de continguts, incloent-hi la tecnologia des de la prim\u00e0ria, amb<br \/>\nassignatures troncals m\u00e9s s\u00f2lides que ofereixin una base\u00a0 cultural que prioritzi la qualitat sobre la quantitat de mat\u00e8ries. Segon refor\u00e7ar el contingut i l&#8217;estructura acad\u00e8mica apostant per un curr\u00edculum que combini teoria i pr\u00e0ctica, per\u00f2 que permeti aprofundir en els coneixements de\u00a0 mat\u00e8ries troncals en lloc d&#8217;intentar cobrir un gran nombre de temes superficialment, amb m\u00e9s hores a assignatures fonamentals. Tercer, potenciar l\u2019estabilitat en el sistema educatiu on calen menys canvis de curr\u00edculum i arribar a un pacte pol\u00edtic que asseguri una estructura educativa que es mantingui durant m\u00e9s temps i no maregi als docents amb continus canvis. Quart, millorar la orientaci\u00f3 professional dels estudiants on caldria recuperar l&#8217;enfocament del COU, amb un \u00fanic curs de preparaci\u00f3 per a l\u2019acc\u00e9s a la universitat. Cinqu\u00e8, invertir per millorar la oferta educativa p\u00fablica i la formaci\u00f3 del professorat amb una oferta p\u00fablica major en cicles formatius i carreres d\u2019alta demanda social, on ara les notes de tall estan disparades. Tamb\u00e9 millorar la formaci\u00f3 inicial del professorat a les facultats d\u2019educaci\u00f3 i als m\u00e0sters de professorat, aix\u00ed com la formaci\u00f3 continuada, en metodologies educatives efectives i adaptades al segle XXI, i amb materials de qualitat. I sis\u00e8, recuperar valors de respecte, disciplina i h\u00e0bits d&#8217;estudi als centres i a la professi\u00f3 afavorint un ambient de treball \u00f2ptim per a l\u2019aprenentatge, amb espais adequats i no massificats.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;El meu desig, coincidint amb Bunge, \u00e9s ajudar que tothom tingui les paraules i el coneixement que el prepari com a persona en la seva vida&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Les ideologies solen ser una part de la nostra persona, per\u00f2, i sota una perspectiva ut\u00f2pica, quin seria el teu desig per a l&#8217;entorn personal o nacional on vius?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Deia Mario Bunge que \u00ab<em>No hi ha societat sense pol\u00edtica, ni pol\u00edtica sense ideologia. I no \u00e9s que les lluites pol\u00edtiques o socials es guanyin amb paraules, per\u00f2 sense elles no es poden lliurar<\/em>\u00bb. El meu desig, coincidint amb Bunge, \u00e9s ajudar que tothom tingui les paraules i el coneixement que el prepari com a persona en la seva vida, des d\u2019all\u00f2 \u00edntim (a expressar-se b\u00e9 amb la seva parella, fam\u00edlia, amics&#8230;) a l\u2019esfera p\u00fablica (estudis, feina&#8230;), per aix\u00ed o b\u00e9 poder participar realment, amb llibertat i capacitat cr\u00edtica, a la societat o a la pol\u00edtica, o b\u00e9 donar les eines per poder suportar tot plegat.<strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>I per \u00faltim, qu\u00e8 n\u2019esperes de la teva vida personal?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Continuar gaudint dels petits plaers de la vida, amb salut.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Font:\u00a0<strong>educational EVIDENCE<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Drets:\u00a0<strong>Creative Commons<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Antoni Hern\u00e1ndez \u00e9s f\u00edsic, ling\u00fcista i doctor en ci\u00e8ncia cognitiva per la Universitat de Barcelona. Ha estat 27 anys docent de secund\u00e0ria i actualment \u00e9s professor agregat a la Universitat Polit\u00e8cnica de Catalunya sent sotsdirector de l\u2019Institut de Ci\u00e8ncies de l\u2019Educaci\u00f3 que forma al professorat de tecnologia i FP. Per\u00f2 la doc\u00e8ncia no ha \u00e9s l\u2019\u00fanic cam\u00ed per on transita aquest inquiet home de ci\u00e8ncies.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":20858,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_FSMCFIC_featured_image_caption":"","_FSMCFIC_featured_image_nocaption":"1","_FSMCFIC_featured_image_hide":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[1643],"tags":[1928,1231,1463,1038,1930,808],"class_list":["post-20881","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-cara-a-cara-ca","tag-antoni-hernandez-ca","tag-coneixement","tag-conocimiento-ca","tag-ia-ca","tag-ratios-ca","tag-tecnologia"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Antoni Hern\u00e1ndez: &quot;Un bon docent est\u00e0 per sobre de les lleis educatives&quot; - Educational Evidence<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Antoni Hern\u00e1ndez \u00e9s f\u00edsic, ling\u00fcista i doctor en ci\u00e8ncia cognitiva per la Universitat de Barcelona. 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