{"id":19689,"date":"2024-09-13T08:36:42","date_gmt":"2024-09-13T06:36:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/?p=19689"},"modified":"2024-09-17T18:15:33","modified_gmt":"2024-09-17T16:15:33","slug":"jose-maria-bermudez-de-castro-lensenyament-a-espanya-no-te-la-qualitat-que-sexigeix-a-altres-paisos-europeus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/ca\/jose-maria-bermudez-de-castro-lensenyament-a-espanya-no-te-la-qualitat-que-sexigeix-a-altres-paisos-europeus\/","title":{"rendered":"Jos\u00e9 Mar\u00eda Berm\u00fadez de Castro: \u201cL\u2019ensenyament a Espanya no t\u00e9 la qualitat que s\u2019exigeix \u200b\u200ba altres pa\u00efsos europeus\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p><strong>CARA A CARA AMB<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Jos\u00e9 Mar\u00eda Berm\u00fadez de Castro Risue\u00f1o, paleoantrop\u00f2leg<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h1>Jos\u00e9 Mar\u00eda Berm\u00fadez de Castro: \u201cL\u2019ensenyament a Espanya no t\u00e9 la qualitat que s\u2019exigeix \u200b\u200ba altres pa\u00efsos europeus\u201d<\/h1>\n<figure id=\"attachment_19354\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-19354\" style=\"width: 700px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-19354\" src=\"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/Jose-Maria-Bermudez-de-Castro.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"465\" srcset=\"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/Jose-Maria-Bermudez-de-Castro.jpg 700w, https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/Jose-Maria-Bermudez-de-Castro-300x199.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-19354\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jos\u00e9 Mar\u00eda Berm\u00fadez de Castro. \/ Foto: Cortesia de l&#8217;autor<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-nc-nd\/4.0\/deed.ca\">Llic\u00e8ncia Creative Commons<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DAVIDRABADA\"><strong><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-14928\" src=\"https:\/\/educationalevidence.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/David-Rabada-1-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"70\" height=\"70\" \/><\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DAVIDRABADA\"><strong>David Rabad\u00e0<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Durant el futur centenari de l\u2019eminent paleont\u00f2leg espanyol,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/ca.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Emiliano_Aguirre_Enr%C3%ADquez\"><strong>Emiliano Aguirre<\/strong><\/a>, cal entrevistar alg\u00fa que el va con\u00e8ixer i va treballar amb ell. El nostre \u2018<em>Cara a Cara<\/em>\u2019 d\u2019avui entrevista qui ha estat codirector d\u2019un dels jaciments m\u00e9s importants a nivell mundial en f\u00f2ssils humans, estem parlant d\u2019<a href=\"https:\/\/ca.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Atapuerca\"><strong>Atapuerca<\/strong><\/a>.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/ca.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jos%C3%A9_Mar%C3%ADa_Berm%C3%BAdez_de_Castro_y_Risue%C3%B1o\"><strong>Jos\u00e9 Mar\u00eda Berm\u00fadez de Castro<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0es va llicenciar i doctorar en Ci\u00e8ncies Biol\u00f2giques per la Universitat Complutense de Madrid (UCM) el 1977 i 1985, respectivament. Despr\u00e9s de gaudir de diverses beques pre i postdoctorals, va ser Professor Titular al Departament de Paleontologia de la UCM entre 1988 i 1990.<\/p>\n<p>El 1991 va comen\u00e7ar la seva traject\u00f2ria cient\u00edfica al\u00a0<em>Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Cient\u00edficas<\/em>\u00a0(<em>Museo Nacional de Ciencias Naturales<\/em>), on va ser Cient\u00edfic Titular, Investigador Cient\u00edfic i Professor d\u2019Investigaci\u00f3. El 2004 va formar part del grup creador del\u00a0<em>Centro Nacional de Investigaci\u00f3n sobre la Evoluci\u00f3n Humana<\/em>\u00a0(Burgos), que va dirigir fins al 2012 i on va finalitzar la seva traject\u00f2ria professional. Actualment \u00e9s membre\u00a0<em>Ad-Honorem<\/em>\u00a0d\u2019aquesta instituci\u00f3. Tamb\u00e9 ha estat membre honor\u00edfic de l\u2019<em>University College<\/em>\u00a0de Londres i doctor Honoris Causa per la Universitat de Burgos. A m\u00e9s, des del 2021 \u00e9s membre de n\u00famero de la Reial Acad\u00e8mia Espanyola.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Com vas con\u00e8ixer Emiliano Aguirre?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Vaig con\u00e8ixer Emiliano Aguirre el 1979, amb motiu de la seva visita al Departament de Paleontologia de la Universitat Complutense de Madrid. Participava en l\u2019estudi d\u2019un cad\u00e0ver momificat exhumat a la bas\u00edlica de la Mare de D\u00e9u de l\u2019Assumpci\u00f3 de Colmenar Viejo, a Madrid, mentre jo estava duent a terme la meva tesi de llicenciatura, un treball conegut llavors com la tesina. Me\u2019l va presentar la meva directora de recerca, la doctora Pilar Julia P\u00e9rez, que havia estat alumna seva de doctorat. Em va impressionar la planta d\u2019Emiliano, alt, prim, amb cabells i barba encara negres i una veu greu i profunda. El seu aspecte causava respecte, per\u00f2 alhora em va semblar una persona tremendament educada i molt propera. Ignorava que, en pocs anys, i sense desmer\u00e8ixer gens ni mica la meva directora de tesina i de tesi doctoral, Emiliano arribaria a ser el meu mestre i mentor durant gaireb\u00e9 una desena d\u2019anys.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Podries definir la persona amb tres adjectius?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Doncs auda\u00e7, brillant i proper.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Quines conseq\u00fc\u00e8ncies creus que va tenir el treball del doctor Aguirre pel que fa a la ci\u00e8ncia i la transmissi\u00f3 de coneixements a la nostra naci\u00f3?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Emiliano va ser un dels pocs cient\u00edfics i acad\u00e8mics espanyols que es va atrevir a fer passos decidits en l\u2019\u00e0mbit internacional, en una \u00e8poca extremadament complexa per a la ci\u00e8ncia i la societat del nostre pa\u00eds. La seva inquietud el va portar a treballar i con\u00e8ixer a fons diverses disciplines relacionades amb la geologia i la paleontologia, i es va atrevir a dirigir desenes de tesis doctorals de tem\u00e0tiques molt diverses. All\u00ed on en aquells temps \u00a0hi havia un veritable camp erm hi va cr\u00e9ixer un jard\u00ed frond\u00f3s cultivat per ell mateix i els seus nombrosos alumnes de doctorat. Emiliano, juntament amb un petit grapat d\u2019erudits, va ser inspiraci\u00f3 per al desenvolupament cient\u00edfic de diverses generacions.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cEmiliano va ser un dels pocs cient\u00edfics i acad\u00e8mics espanyols que es va atrevir a fer passos decidits en l\u2019\u00e0mbit internacional\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Ens podries explicar els detalls del teu darrer projecte professional vinculat a l\u2019her\u00e8ncia d\u2019Emiliano Aguirre?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong>Emiliano Aguirre em va incorporar al seu projecte d\u2019excavacions i investigaci\u00f3 als jaciments de la Serra d\u2019Atapuerca cap a l\u2019any 1982, quan encara no havia finalitzat la meva tesi doctoral. Vaig compatibilitzar la tesi amb diversos estudis que em va encomanar i les excavacions. El 1985, despr\u00e9s de defensar la meva tesi doctoral, em vaig lliurar al cent per cent al seu projecte a Atapuerca, ajudant en la confecci\u00f3 i la log\u00edstica dels successius projectes sol\u00b7licitats al ministeri de ci\u00e8ncia de llavors, portant l\u2019economia de les excavacions, etc.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Quines relacions positives establiries entre els teus projectes professionals i la formaci\u00f3 que en vas rebre?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong>No cal dir que la meva traject\u00f2ria professional posterior a la retirada d\u2019Emiliano Aguirre el 1991 ha estat molt marcada pels seus ensenyaments, que van ser molts i molt valuosos. Per explicar una an\u00e8cdota, tot i no ser el meu director de tesi, Emiliano es va llegir \u00edntegre el manuscrit a llapis, i cal recordar que llavors no ten\u00edem ordinadors, i em va donar tota mena de consells per millorar la feina.<\/p>\n<p><strong>El sistema educatiu vigent ja no t\u00e9 res a veure amb el que vas rebre. Pel que fa a l\u2019actual sistema educatiu, i si hi haguessis estudiat, penses que hauria millorat o empitjorat la teva capacitat professional?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Penso que hauria millorat i for\u00e7a. Tinc edat suficient per afirmar que l\u2019educaci\u00f3 que es rebia a Espanya els anys 1950 i 1960 era molt deficient.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Qu\u00e8 creus que pensaria Emiliano Aguirre de l\u2019actual sistema educatiu?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Imagino que la seva opini\u00f3 no seria gaire diferent de la meva.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Veient el teu cam\u00ed professional, com creus que s\u2019hauria de millorar l\u2019actual transmissi\u00f3 de coneixements cient\u00edfics a les nostres aules de secund\u00e0ria? I si fall\u00e9s, en qu\u00e8 creus que falla?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>S\u00e9 que la majoria del professorat de prim\u00e0ria i secund\u00e0ria no tenen una formaci\u00f3 cient\u00edfica b\u00e0sica. L\u2019ensenyament a Espanya no t\u00e9 la qualitat que s\u2019exigeix \u200b\u200ba altres pa\u00efsos europeus. Sabent que la formaci\u00f3 dels nostres fills est\u00e0 en mans del sistema educatiu actual, els professors haurien de tenir m\u00e9s nivell en pedagogia o en el m\u00e8tode cient\u00edfic. Els bons professors milloren la formaci\u00f3 dels alumnes. Per descomptat, la professi\u00f3 de docent hauria d\u2019estar m\u00e9s ben considerada a nivell social i econ\u00f2mic.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cSabent que la formaci\u00f3 dels nostres fills est\u00e0 en mans del sistema educatiu actual, els professors haurien de tenir m\u00e9s nivell en pedagogia o en el m\u00e8tode cient\u00edfic\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Sota una perspectiva ut\u00f2pica, com veus el futur de la ci\u00e8ncia nacional?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ha millorat molt\u00edssim des que vaig comen\u00e7ar el 1979; per\u00f2 encara li falta una bona empenta perqu\u00e8 estiguem a l\u2019al\u00e7ada de pa\u00efsos com Alemanya o el Regne Unit, per citar dos pa\u00efsos europeus propers. Que la llengua oficial de la ci\u00e8ncia sigui l\u2019angl\u00e8s \u00e9s una batalla perduda per moltes circumst\u00e0ncies hist\u00f2riques per\u00f2 no \u00e9s una excusa.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Qu\u00e8 li diries ara mateix a Emiliano de tenir-lo al davant?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>B\u00e9, seguir\u00edem tenint les converses tan interessants que vam mantenir durant aquells anys sobre les troballes i descobriments que s\u2019anaven produint i potser sobre molts altres temes cient\u00edfics i d\u2019actualitat. Ara mateix, amb la meva experi\u00e8ncia, la conversa seria m\u00e9s equilibrada. Aquells anys nom\u00e9s escoltava, com corresponia a alg\u00fa que estava aprenent.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Font:\u00a0<strong>educational EVIDENCE<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Drets:\u00a0<strong>Creative Commons<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Durant el futur centenari de l\u2019eminent paleont\u00f2leg espanyol,\u00a0Emiliano Aguirre, cal entrevistar alg\u00fa que el va con\u00e8ixer i va treballar amb ell. El nostre \u2018Cara a Cara\u2019 d\u2019avui entrevista qui ha estat codirector d\u2019un dels jaciments m\u00e9s importants a nivell mundial en f\u00f2ssils humans, estem parlant d\u2019Atapuerca.\u00a0Jos\u00e9 Mar\u00eda Berm\u00fadez de Castro\u00a0es va llicenciar i doctorar en Ci\u00e8ncies Biol\u00f2giques per la Universitat Complutense de Madrid (UCM) el 1977 i 1985, respectivament.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":19354,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_FSMCFIC_featured_image_caption":"","_FSMCFIC_featured_image_nocaption":"1","_FSMCFIC_featured_image_hide":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[1643],"tags":[1702,1703,1701],"class_list":["post-19689","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-cara-a-cara-ca","tag-atapuerca-ca","tag-emiliano-aguirre-ca","tag-jose-maria-bermudez-de-castro-ca"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Jos\u00e9 Mar\u00eda Berm\u00fadez de Castro: \u201cL\u2019ensenyament a Espanya no t\u00e9 la qualitat que s\u2019exigeix \u200b\u200ba altres pa\u00efsos europeus\u201d - Educational Evidence<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Durant el futur centenari de l\u2019eminent paleont\u00f2leg espanyol,\u00a0Emiliano Aguirre, cal entrevistar alg\u00fa que el va con\u00e8ixer i va treballar amb ell. 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