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Entrevista a Josep Llu\u00eds Mart\u00edn i Berbois, historiador i holmesi\u00e0<\/p>\n

Josep Llu\u00eds Mart\u00edn i Berbois: “ERC no tenia cap inter\u00e8s perqu\u00e8 les dones catalanes votessin a les eleccions al Parlament de 1932”<\/h1>\n
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Autor: Llu\u00eds Franco<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

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Entrevistem Josep Llu\u00eds Mart\u00edn i Berbois,<\/strong> un hiperactiu de la historiografia catalana, que combina les investigacions sobre fets i figures del catalanisme amb una curiosa d\u00e8ria persecut\u00f2ria de primeres edicions i rareses relacionades amb Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.<\/p>\n

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Acabes de publicar la biografia de Joan Llonch i Salas. Ens en podries fer un resum? Qui era i qu\u00e8 va fer el \u201cCamb\u00f3 de Sabadell\u201d?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Correcte. Era un mecenes, empresari i pol\u00edtic catalanista i conservador de Sabadell. De la seva figura cal destacar el paper que va tenir en diverses entitats culturals i econ\u00f2miques de la ciutat, una pres\u00e8ncia que ja venia heretada dels seus avantpassats; els quals havien ocupat for\u00e7a els mateixos llocs que Joan Llonch. A m\u00e9s de la seva faceta com amant de la cultura en tots el sentits, cal destacar el seu paper pol\u00edtic sobretot durant la Guerra Civil on va dirigir l\u2019Oficina de Propaganda i Premsa de Francesc Camb\u00f3 a Par\u00eds que ajudava al b\u00e0ndol sollevat. Una posici\u00f3 pol\u00edtica que no va prosseguir durant el franquisme.<\/p>\n

Com vas anar a parar al Cercle Holmes? Qu\u00e8 has publicat de moment sobre Conan Doyle i qu\u00e8 en remenes actualment?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Doncs una mica de casualitat. En el viatge de fi de curs de 3r de BUP vaig tornar a la lectura d\u2019Estudi en Escarlata que havia iniciat i aparcat als onze anys. Curiosament el meu professor d\u2019Hist\u00f2ria va assentar-se davant meu i va preguntar-me si m\u2019agradava. Al contestar-li afirmativament, va explicar-me que existia una entitat que es dedicava a l\u2019estudi i difusi\u00f3 del c\u00e8lebre detectiu. I aix\u00ed \u00e9s com vaig entrar al C\u00edrculo Holmes amb nom\u00e9s disset anys.<\/p>\n

Explica\u2019ns com vas acabar escrivint l\u2019\u00fanica biografia amb cap i peus de l\u2019alcalde Porcioles? Vas generar certes pol\u00e8miques\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n

B\u00e9, hi ha una altra anterior realitzada per l\u2019historiador Mart\u00ed Mar\u00edn que es dedica al per\u00edode com alcalde. No obstant, la de la seva vida completa si que \u00e9s cert que el meu treball \u00e9s el primer. Va ser un enc\u00e0rrec de la Fundaci\u00f3 Noguera (fundaci\u00f3 dels notaris de Catalunya) que volia crear na col\u00b7lecci\u00f3 de biografies de notaris. Despr\u00e9s de tres anys dedicats a la realitzaci\u00f3 de la biografia finalment la Fundaci\u00f3 Noguera no la va publicar. Durant els tres anys que vaig haver d\u2019esperar per poder tenir els drets del llibre vaig continuar afegint nova informaci\u00f3 i finalment, gr\u00e0cies a la confian\u00e7a de l\u2019editor Santi Sobrequ\u00e9s, va poder poder-se publicar. Cal dir que va tenir un destacat \u00e8xit i que a dia d\u2019avui encara em fan entrevistes sobre la controvertida figura de l\u2019alcalde barcelon\u00ed.<\/p>\n

“El tema del sufragi femen\u00ed ha estat i \u00e9s un dels temes que m\u00e9s m\u2019he dedicat”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Qui es va oposar a Catalunya al vot femen\u00ed a partir de 1932?<\/strong><\/p>\n

El tema del sufragi femen\u00ed ha estat i \u00e9s un dels temes que m\u00e9s m\u2019he dedicat. En el llibre \u201cIgnorades per\u00f2 desitjades\u201d vaig demostrar que ERC no tenia cap inter\u00e8s perqu\u00e8 les dones catalanes votessin a les eleccions al Parlament de 1932, per aquest motiu va exposar una s\u00e8rie d\u2019excuses poc fonamentades perqu\u00e8 les dones no exercissin el seu dret. El gran temor \u00e9s que havien sentit que a la majoria de pa\u00efsos que havien deixat votar a les dones havien guanyat els partits conservadors. Una idea totalment falsa. Cal dir, tamb\u00e9, que els partits conservadors tampoc eren partidaris del vot femen\u00ed per\u00f2 ja els anava b\u00e9 el fet que suposadament les \u201cdones fossin conservadores\u201d.<\/p>\n

L\u2019any 2015 vas comissariar i catalogar una exposici\u00f3 ben curiosa a Sabadell\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n

B\u00e9, sempre he intentat estudiar d\u2019altres camps que no nom\u00e9s fos la hist\u00f2ria pura i dura. Crec que s\u2019ha de ser \u201ctransversal\u201d i estudia i con\u00e8ixer d\u2019altres disciplines que sens dubte enriquiran les nostres recerques i, sobretot, la nostra persona.<\/p>\n

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Fotografia: Llu\u00eds Franco<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Per aquest motiu vaig interessar-.me en l\u2019exposici\u00f3 de l\u2019Art Nou de 1915 que va fer-se a Sabadell. La meva intenci\u00f3 va ser estudiar aquesta magn\u00edfica exposici\u00f3, que molts historiadors de l\u2019art la consideraven molt rellevant, per\u00f2 que pr\u00e0cticament no s\u2019havia estudiat.<\/p>\n

Aix\u00f2 va fer que fes un estudi que va publicar-se en format llibre i reprodu\u00eds l\u2019exposici\u00f3 del 1915 amb algunes de les obres originals de l\u2019exposici\u00f3.<\/p>\n

Com veus el futur immediat de la universitat i la investigaci\u00f3 a Catalunya?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Soc pessimista. Hi ha for\u00e7a investigadors i especialistes fora de les universitats que podrien estar fent un gran servei a la universitat per\u00f2 per diferents motius, alguns poc transparents, han fet i fan que les coses no vagin a millor i moltes possibles carreres quedin estroncades.<\/p>\n

Qu\u00e8 escrius actualment?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Estic refent, a estones, el llibre \u201cIgnorades per\u00f2 desitjades\u201d per\u00f2 no s\u00e9 quan el tindr\u00e9 acabat. I a estones tamb\u00e9 estic amb una hist\u00f2ria relacionada amb el b\u00e0squet, per\u00f2 fins aqu\u00ed puc llegir…. Ha, ha, ha.<\/p>\n

Ets camboni\u00e0 o macianista?<\/strong><\/p>\n

No ho s\u00e9, potser una mica de tots dos. El que si que tinc clar \u00e9s que son dues grans figures pol\u00edtiques de la primera meitat del segle XX i ambd\u00f3s son interessant\u00edssims d\u2019estudiar.<\/p>\n

Holmes o Challenger?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Aquest ho tinc m\u00e9s f\u00e0cil, Holmes per sobre de tot. Challenger \u00e9s un personatge molt interessant i crec que poc reconegut perqu\u00e8 la fama de Sherlock Holmes ha fet que molts dels altres treballs de Conan Doyle hagin passat desapercebuts i la veritat \u00e9s que hi ha de molt bons.<\/p>\n

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